Is there a metric for bad officiating?

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Is there a metric for bad officiating?

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I’ve seen a lot of bad calls, but I dont recall a game with so many and particularly big play changing calls.
The bs personal foul. The phantom holding call on us. The lack of holding calls on UAB.

I know I sound like a whiny fan, but this game seemed like an outlier.

Are these guys reviewed and are those reviews public?
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Carolina Greenie wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 pm Are these guys reviewed and are those reviews public?
Yes (allegedly), no
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One of the refs looked like he was fairly new. He was overruled by the head ref on one penalty and the ref looked like he was explaining things to him all game.
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I don't understand why personal fouls are not reviewable. Outside of maybe offsides/false starts or 12 men on the field, they are the most obvious calls to change if reviewed. It would have clearly shown the runner was still in bounds when he was hit.

PI, holding calls, ineligible receiver downfield - I get it, more subjective. Put personal fouls should be reviewable because of their impact.
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Anything close to "targeting" is reviewed.
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No reviews for personal foul calls, please. That will not improve the judgment of officials on the field but only lengthen games. What we need is experience and good judgment, and substituting someone else for an official on the field guarantees neither.
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Wandering Quaker wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:01 am No reviews for personal foul calls, please. That will not improve the judgment of officials on the field but only lengthen games. What we need is experience and good judgment, and substituting someone else for an official on the field guarantees neither.
I don't like the length of games, but blaming replay for that rather than crass commercialism seems to be directing it to the wrong location. That said, you're right, I'd be more inclined to be pro more replay if they almost always got it right, but how often do they *still* get it wrong? Think about the TD in the LSU game last night (That wasn't a touchdown)??

We need a way that uses more common sense and pragmatism to determine when we go to replay, instead of the current, stark black and white rules. "no" replay for personal fouls makes sense for most personal fouls, but if the question is whether or not someone was out of bounds, and the answer to that question would completely trump the referee's perspective (regardless of his experience), then it certainly should be eligible
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WaveProf wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:08 am
Wandering Quaker wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:01 am No reviews for personal foul calls, please. That will not improve the judgment of officials on the field but only lengthen games. What we need is experience and good judgment, and substituting someone else for an official on the field guarantees neither.
I don't like the length of games, but blaming replay for that rather than crass commercialism seems to be directing it to the wrong location. That said, you're right, I'd be more inclined to be pro more replay if they almost always got it right, but how often do they *still* get it wrong? Think about the TD in the LSU game last night (That wasn't a touchdown)??

We need a way that uses more common sense and pragmatism to determine when we go to replay, instead of the current, stark black and white rules. "no" replay for personal fouls makes sense for most personal fouls, but if the question is whether or not someone was out of bounds, and the answer to that question would completely trump the referee's perspective (regardless of his experience), then it certainly should be eligible
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