Lose by 15 to Oklahoma

[tjtlja]

And, oh yeah, do we miss Valentino or what?......

No, not really. Barnes has shown he is every bit the PK we need. The kid is hurt. Why call him out?

I legitimately don't think most Tulane fans even know that Barnes didn't see the field again after the missed 50-yarder. They think it was him that put the PAT under the crossbar. The announcers never said a word about Barnes not being out there (at least that I heard).

Observant fans might have noticed because Barnes is a lefty!

Pete, this one makes me laugh because you are totally correct.

[tjtlja]

Only three games in, with a lot of frustration during the last two--I'd expect the team to be in the mood to beat the crap out of someone.

Absolutely, my money is on this too. I didn't so much mean a rough spot for the team as simply kind of a lose-lose situation in analysis. Win big, means little. Meanwhile some reasons in place that it *could* be more difficult, and a loss would be utter disaster. Dangerously low floor, with still a low ceiling for impact even if we win big

This is going to be a very tough game to win. So will South Florida. If anyone thinks otherwise, these are very tricky games coming up.

[PeteRasche]

Only three games in, with a lot of frustration during the last two--I'd expect the team to be in the mood to beat the crap out of someone.

Absolutely, my money is on this too. I didn't so much mean a rough spot for the team as simply kind of a lose-lose situation in analysis. Win big, means little. Meanwhile some reasons in place that it *could* be more difficult, and a loss would be utter disaster. Dangerously low floor, with still a low ceiling for impact even if we win big

This is going to be a very tough game to win. So will South Florida. If anyone thinks otherwise, these are very tricky games coming up.

I think you are severely underestimating how good we are based on two games against top 20 teams. We're one of the top G5 teams (despite our record, we still are) and ULL is a mid-pack SBC team.

[waverider]

Only three games in, with a lot of frustration during the last two--I'd expect the team to be in the mood to beat the crap out of someone.

Absolutely, my money is on this too. I didn't so much mean a rough spot for the team as simply kind of a lose-lose situation in analysis. Win big, means little. Meanwhile some reasons in place that it *could* be more difficult, and a loss would be utter disaster. Dangerously low floor, with still a low ceiling for impact even if we win big

This is going to be a very tough game to win. So will South Florida. If anyone thinks otherwise, these are very tricky games coming up.

I think you are severely underestimating how good we are based on two games against top 20 teams. We're one of the top G5 teams (despite our record, we still are) and ULL is a mid-pack SBC team.

ULL was a lot of people’s pick for the SBC championship game. Even Phil Steele put them on the most improved list. They are very beatable and could make a win over them much better with a deep run of their own.

[tjtlja]

Obviously, most people on this board really have no clue how many athletes UL has. There is a reason the line is 3. If we are as dominant as some people think, the line would be double digits.

We have a long way to go and so many question marks. It is unbelievable people are still talking friggen playoffs. I just want be 2-2 after Saturday.

[waverider]

Obviously, most people on this board really have no clue how many athletes UL has. There is a reason the line is 3. If we are as dominant as some people think, the line would be double digits.

We have a long way to go and so many question marks. It is unbelievable people are still talking friggen playoffs. I just want be 2-2 after Saturday.

They have some good transfers and DL that could cause trouble for Mensah. As I mentioned, I was ready to call this a loss had we won one of the last two. Now, we will find out what type of leadership we have.

[tjtlja]

Obviously, most people on this board really have no clue how many athletes UL has. There is a reason the line is 3. If we are as dominant as some people think, the line would be double digits.

We have a long way to go and so many question marks. It is unbelievable people are still talking friggen playoffs. I just want be 2-2 after Saturday.

They have some good transfers and DL that could cause trouble for Mensah. As I mentioned, I was ready to call this a loss had we won one of the last two. Now, we will find out what type of leadership we have.

Very good observation.

[OGSB]

Sumrall post game press conference:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BLgl4QTJc ... dGdhbWU%3D

[Roller]

Well we decided to go with a RS Freshman at QB and we have seen 2 quarters of good offense vs FBS Schools.

This isn't on Mensah, he has played ahead of schedule. However 14/33 today with 1 int, 1 fumble, and 1 td is not what you needed to win this big game. He fumbled last week to lose the lead and ended the game with an int. Again I am NOT anti-Mensah, rather this young staff showed its youth by putting this on him when you had two other older more experienced Qbs with talent. This is on the coaches.

Also any argument that Mensah is dangerous with his legs at this point is a lie. Mensah has responded to pressure by running backwords over and over like you know... a RS freshman playing his first games. Pratt did it vs Tulsa and others in 2020 and we lost some we shouldn't have.

This is on the coaches for playing someone who has talent, potential, and a bright future, but clearly not ready for the 4Q against these teams.

I agree about Mensah’s mobility. He doesn’t run nearly as well as he looked to have in HS and that may be the competition he faced.

If he’s the best QB we have, then you have to play him in these games. It provides experience at a level he won’t face with most teams in conference play.

I don't think he is the best QB we have for pressure situations. Horton played very clutch at Houston and saved our season. Yet everyone dismissed that. That is BS we don't have a cotton bowl if not for Horton. Thompson came in and threw a TD today. Why are we married to Mensah at this point?

+1

[Twowaves]

I also remember Horton running out of bounds a yard short of the marker on a fourth down play against ole miss late in the game. Helped lose the game. My point is young players make mistakes. Horton is number 3 for a reason. We played 2 top 15 teams and proved we can play with them.

[Marathon Wave]

Maybe we should give some respect and acknowledgement to one of the best and well resourced programs in football and the game being played at their place. It speaks to where this program is that we are so upset about losing to two top 15 teams, one being the big 12 favorite and the other an elite sec program (with who knows how many 4 & 5 stat guy). Both could easily be in the playoff this year.

Yes I’m disappointed but we didn’t lose to a USM, or even a wake forest for that matter. Need to beat ULL this week and need to run the table in conference.

It does speak volumes to how far we’ve come. I may have posted this here, but I told some people yesterday that before Fritz, the 21-0 deficit becomes 63-3 at the end.

So true, Rider. So true.

[nolasilver]

Losing these last two games hurt in a different way than the blowout losses of yesteryears because we actually looked like we belong athletically. A lot of football left to play.

Losing to ULL on the other hand could feel like the season is heading the wrong way.

I think we have a better team than last year precisely because of those two games, but win or lose at ULL and the season has *already* very much gone the wrong way.....a loss to ULL would be absolute disaster of epic proportions. Meanwhile a win is a yawn. That's a rough spot to be in coming off 2 hard weeks against a team on a bye week.

I don’t think it’s a yawn. They’ve really been talking this game up, and it’s important for us from a recruiting and instate perception standpoint. Also supposedly they are sunbelt favorites. This is a more interesting game than half the games we have left. Who’s excited for Temple & Charlotte ?!

[Marathon Wave]

Losing these last two games hurt in a different way than the blowout losses of yesteryears because we actually looked like we belong athletically. A lot of football left to play.

Losing to ULL on the other hand could feel like the season is heading the wrong way.

Can we beat UL on the road the way we are playing. Knowing Tulane fans, they will not travel because it is at 11:00, the heat, the record, or some other ridiculous reason. So the Cajuns will have a rabid fan advantage. Can we stop their offense? Do we play with any urgency? Does our OC call a good game? Is Barnes healthy? Can we get any pressure on the QB? Can we get the ball to our WR’s in space? More questions than answers which is never a good recipe.

Answers: yes, yes, yes, don't know, yes, yes. You should know the answers.

[Marathon Wave]

The Greenbackers have a bus going and any local parents are probably going, but with only half a stadium, I don’t think it’s going to be the environment you imagine.

I agree, Rider. USL not gonna have a full, standing-room-only stadium. Same reason someone says our fans not going - too early.

[Marathon Wave]

Losing these last two games hurt in a different way than the blowout losses of yesteryears because we actually looked like we belong athletically. A lot of football left to play.

Losing to ULL on the other hand could feel like the season is heading the wrong way.

I think we have a better team than last year precisely because of those two games, but win or lose at ULL and the season has *already* very much gone the wrong way.....a loss to ULL would be absolute disaster of epic proportions. Meanwhile a win is a yawn. That's a rough spot to be in coming off 2 hard weeks against a team on a bye week.

A win is a WIN.

[Marathon Wave]

And, oh yeah, do we miss Valentino or what?......

No, not really. Barnes has shown he is every bit the PK we need. The kid is hurt. Why call him out?

I legitimately don't think most Tulane fans even know that Barnes didn't see the field again after the missed 50-yarder. They think it was him that put the PAT under the crossbar. The announcers never said a word about Barnes not being out there (at least that I heard).

Observant fans might have noticed because Barnes is a lefty!

Well I don't really think you have to be very observant to notice left from right.

[Marathon Wave]

Losing these last two games hurt in a different way than the blowout losses of yesteryears because we actually looked like we belong athletically. A lot of football left to play.

Losing to ULL on the other hand could feel like the season is heading the wrong way.

I think we have a better team than last year precisely because of those two games, but win or lose at ULL and the season has *already* very much gone the wrong way.....a loss to ULL would be absolute disaster of epic proportions. Meanwhile a win is a yawn. That's a rough spot to be in coming off 2 hard weeks against a team on a bye week.

I can't imagine it will be a rough spot for the team. Only three games in, with a lot of frustration during the last two--I'd expect the team to be in the mood to beat the crap out of someone.

My thoughts exactly, Quaker. Kinda how I felt OU was feeling after the embarrassing UH game (they won, but barely). Not that our team was embarrassed, but that they are ready to show they can put together a solid game.

[Marathon Wave]

Only three games in, with a lot of frustration during the last two--I'd expect the team to be in the mood to beat the crap out of someone.

Absolutely, my money is on this too. I didn't so much mean a rough spot for the team as simply kind of a lose-lose situation in analysis. Win big, means little. Meanwhile some reasons in place that it *could* be more difficult, and a loss would be utter disaster. Dangerously low floor, with still a low ceiling for impact even if we win big

This is going to be a very tough game to win. So will South Florida. If anyone thinks otherwise, these are very tricky games coming up.

Nothing tricky about these games, teams. What do you think ull or usf would do against our last two?

[tjtlja]

UL and USF can certainly beat us and no one nationally would be surprised. These are tricky games coming after two very physical games we lost. We are a 3 pt favorite this week and will probably be the same next week. Our PK is hurt and we need him in these two games. I expect us to win every game, but we have to play much better than we have.

[tjtlja]

Losing these last two games hurt in a different way than the blowout losses of yesteryears because we actually looked like we belong athletically. A lot of football left to play.

Losing to ULL on the other hand could feel like the season is heading the wrong way.

Can we beat UL on the road the way we are playing. Knowing Tulane fans, they will not travel because it is at 11:00, the heat, the record, or some other ridiculous reason. So the Cajuns will have a rabid fan advantage. Can we stop their offense? Do we play with any urgency? Does our OC call a good game? Is Barnes healthy? Can we get any pressure on the QB? Can we get the ball to our WR’s in space? More questions than answers which is never a good recipe.

Answers: yes, yes, yes, don't know, yes, yes. You should know the answers.

I don’t know any of the answers. Why don’t you explain how we will accomplish each.

[Sophandros]

UL and USF can certainly beat us and no one nationally would be surprised. These are tricky games coming after two very physical games we lost. We are a 3 pt favorite this week and will probably be the same next week. Our PK is hurt and we need him in these two games. I expect us to win every game, but we have to play much better than we have.

We're a 3 point favorite on the road.

No one is overlooking ULL, and a lot of how we played against OU had more to do with OU than with us. I don't think ULL is as talented or as deep as OU.

[Johnny Mac]

My final though on OU, we may have been their last FBS home win thus year.. they have a brutal SEC home schedule

[waverider]

UL and USF can certainly beat us and no one nationally would be surprised. These are tricky games coming after two very physical games we lost. We are a 3 pt favorite this week and will probably be the same next week. Our PK is hurt and we need him in these two games. I expect us to win every game, but we have to play much better than we have.

On the flip side, we just played two tough opponents while they essentially beat two fcs teams (Kennesaw St is in their first season of FBS). We may come in ready for a hard hitting game against someone that has only faced cupcakes.

[WaveProf]

I don’t think it’s a yawn.

ULL and USF certainly have the ability to beat us (I don't think either will, but neither can be taken lightly), but given the state of the AAC, SBC, and college football, every single game on our schedule is YAWN of a win (at best), and a disaster of a loss, until, *maybe*, Memphis

[ml wave]

It sickens me neither of the other QBs were given chance. The only logical explanation is we are playing for just the conference or for next year.

We never went 4 wide and always went 6-7 man protection which tells me they are trying to protect the QB.

To do so might have sapped Mensahs confidence. I understand your point about Kai. I do not understand your point about Thompson. Sure he is athletic. He has not seen any meaningful minutes and could not win this job in camp when he was the clear frontrunner and should have been athletically superior. Maybe the coaches are just dead wrong on him, but I think there's probably a reason he's been relegated to specific packages

The schedule was not built this year to start a RS/FR when you had other good options.

I think you have a point about the schedule but if we had other good options at QB then they should have won the job either in the spring or in fall camp. They had every opportunity.