Non-Tulane NCAA thread

[PeteRasche]

What did you read as criticizing others for "pollsplaining"?

I realize you probably have PTSD from your recent discussions on here where it feels like someone is drunk in a bar, standing in your face and pointing a finger at your nose while screaming, but I assure you that 98% of the posts I make here are meant to be in the vein of "laughing, friendly chatter around the water cooler" and even when I disagree with someone, it's more like, "nawww, c'mon..."

[ml wave]

What did you read as criticizing others for "pollsplaining"?

I realize you probably have PTSD from your recent discussions on here where it feels like someone is drunk in a bar, standing in your face and pointing a finger at your nose while screaming, but I assure you that 98% of the posts I make here are meant to be in the vein of "laughing, friendly chatter around the water cooler" and even when I disagree with someone, it's more like, "nawww, c'mon..."

Eh, criticize is probably too strong of a word and I'm not taking anything seriously but PTSD...maybe you're on to something lol.

[PeteRasche]

HUGE weekend here in Week 4. Lots of Top 25 teams playing head-to-head, lots of them playing against AAC teams. It will be interesting to see whether any of it affects us.

Times in ET, sorry...
No. 1 Georgia vs. UAB | 7:30 p.m. | ESPN2
No. 2 Michigan vs. Rutgers | 12 p.m. | Big Ten Network
No. 3 Texas at Baylor | 7:30 p.m. | ABC
No. 4 Florida State at Clemson | 12 p.m. | ABC
No. 5 USC at Arizona State | 10:30 p.m. | FOX
No. 6 Ohio State at No. 9 Notre Dame | 7:30 p.m. | NBC
No. 7 Penn State vs. No. 24 Iowa | 7:30 p.m. | CBS
No. 8 Washington vs. Cal | 10:30 p.m. | ESPN
No. 10 Oregon vs. No. 19 Colorado | 3:30 p.m. | ABC
No. 11 Utah vs. No. 22 UCLA | 3:30 p.m. | FOX
No. 12 LSU vs. Arkansas | 7 p.m. | ESPN
No. 13 Alabama vs. No. 15 Ole Miss | 3:30 p.m. | CBS
No. 14 Oregon State at No. 21 Washington State | 7 p.m. | FOX
No. 16 Oklahoma at Cincinnati | 12 p.m. | FOX
No. 17 North Carolina at Pitt | 8 p.m. | ACC Network
No. 18 Duke at UConn | 3:30 p.m. | CBSSN
No. 20 Miami (Fla.) at Temple | 3:30 p.m. | ESPN2
No. 23 Tennessee vs. UTSA | 4 p.m. | SEC Network
No. 25 Florida vs. Charlotte | 7 p.m. | ESPN+/SECN+

[PeteRasche]

Other non-Top-25 games of note today for various curiosity reasons:

Early:
Oklahoma @ Cincy (Cincy Big 12 debut - after a 5 year winning streak at home, could Cincinnati lose three of the next four? A loss today would be just that, and if so, watch their home attendance plummet as they return to being a "basketball school")
Virginia Tech @ Marshall (will Marshall remain in NY6 picture?)
SMU @ TCU (just to "see where SMU is" - if TCU wins handily I'll be less concerned about SMU)

Mid-afternoon:
UTSA @ Tennessee (heh, remember all summer when this was the game so many sportswriters were looking at to see if UTSA would be the NY6 frontrunner?)

Evening (besides Tulane):
App State @ Wyoming (could sneakily be a great game)
Memphis @ Missouri (need Memphis to win)
UCF @ KSU (latent 2022 curiosity)

Late:
Kent State (+27!) @ Fresno State

[long green]

The UCF game could be great but Plumlee is hurt again, almost right on schedule.

UTSA is interesting to me, but not how you might think. If Harris were healthy they might have one loss but he’s been out, of course. I read yesterday that a Texas sportswriter said that Harris has been fighting multiple injuries and came close to hanging them up this offseason. That report and “UTSA paid him six figures to stay there” don’t really square, do they?

[PeteRasche]

Nm

[PeteRasche]

I've thought about that myself, both with UTSA and just in the NIL world in general. You promise a guy big payments to get him to stay and then he's injured - especially when he's a senior with no chance at returning the next year. How are those NIL donors feeling? I'm sure there are contracts (just like how schools honor scholarships when players have career-ending injuries), so they can't just say "sorry" and pull the money. If they get burned badly, they're gonna think harder before donating big bucks the next time. Doesn't mean some still won't give, but the more "minor" donors might decline.

Meanwhile, regarding Plumlee, I'd love to laugh at their fans for their "luck" but we're sorta in the same boat right now, so...

[long green]

I’m sure he’s getting something from them, he’s earned it, but when someone first posted the Frank Harris NIL story I said then that it read like a press release from UTSA.

[waverider]

I've thought about that myself, both with UTSA and just in the NIL world in general. You promise a guy big payments to get him to stay and then he's injured - especially when he's a senior with no chance at returning the next year. How are those NIL donors feeling? I'm sure there are contracts (just like how schools honor scholarships when players have career-ending injuries), so they can't just say "sorry" and pull the money. If they get burned badly, they're gonna think harder before donating big bucks the next time. Doesn't mean some still won't give, but the more "minor" donors might decline.

Meanwhile, regarding Plumlee, I'd love to laugh at their fans for their "luck" but we're sorta in the same boat right now, so...

Since NIL can’t be tied to on-field performance he will collect the full amount just like the lsu QB who signed a big deal with Canes then promptly quit football.

[long green]

My position is that the “full amount” isn’t what UTSA tried to put across to the public.

[PeteRasche]

Sure. My observation was more the potential effect on the same NIL boosters maybe being more hesitant for the next guy, after getting burned. Using UTSA as a general example of any school: UTSA made headlines with the money that a "small school" was able to raise to keep a single star player, and now that guy isn't playing but still getting a nice chunk of change. You have to figure a decent number of boosters gave 4+ figures to him. What if he doesn't play another down? Will they still give when UTSA someday has another star player they want to keep? Or will they think twice, knowing their money could be for no benefit to their beloved team winning? Or in your example, 'rider, I wonder if any boosters at Miami changed their tune about how much they'd give, after seeing what that guy did to Canes.

[Man in Green]

Anyone know why Colorado is getting 21 points against Oregon?

[waverider]

Marshall up 24-10 on Va Tech about 7 minutes left

Now 24-17 with 5 minutes left

[Man in Green]

I’m going with Tulane -38 and Tennessee -23.5 as my parlay today. UTSA’s 27 year old QB is out.

[Marathon Wave]

Anyone know why Colorado is getting 21 points against Oregon?

Because they're really NOT THAT GOOD.

Ducks just CRUSHNG them right now.

[Marathon Wave]

Did any else see the OR fake punt?

From their 17? Just putting on a PRIME clinic.

[Marathon Wave]

2nd and 29 (after a sack). OR runs up the middle for 35!

[Marathon Wave]

21 zip. DUCKS.

9:39 left in half.

[Marathon Wave]

Passing:
Sanders 5/9 20yds
Nix 16/17 126yds

Rushing
Colorado 3 carries minus 7 yds (this is for the team)

[Marathon Wave]

5 mins left in half.
CO rushing 6 / -18

Punted on 4th & 21 (this after a draw on 3rd for about 10 yds)

[Marathon Wave]

28 NADA

Ducks


Wide open 40 yd TD pass.

2:52 left in half.

Oh, and co got an int on Nix. Still couldn't do anything.

[Marathon Wave]

Another 4th & 21 punt for co. Talk about playing behind the chains.

[Marathon Wave]

Oregon is taking this game personally.

[Marathon Wave]

Nix, with 11 yd qb draw makes it 35 nilch.

12 sec left in half.

[tulaneoutlaw]

Colorado with -33 yards rushing at half. Oregon outgained Colorado by 350 yards in the first half. Colorado doesn't have the horses on the lines or on d and anybody with eyes knew that coming in