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New OC speculation
With Chip Long gone, we can speculate freely. I know folks have said Joe Brady, but I don't think that's very realistic. Here's who I would call first, GREG Stevens from SELA:
https://lionsports.net/sports/football/ ... evens/3276
SELA had the #1 offense by SP+ in FCS this year. He's got Louisiana ties and has yet to get a shot at FBS. He coaches QBs which is a plus and I think he could help with Louisiana recruiting. The guy's been an OC at several places, so this would not be a Hampton situation.
I'd also look at the OC from Incarnate Word, Cody Crill. Wazzo may have beat us to the punch because it's being reported they are hiring the UIW head coach as their OC. Crill has a long history of record setting offenses going back to his time at the Juco level. UIW went from 1-10 the season before he arrived to a FCS playoff berth in 2018. He's got Texas ties which is another place we need help recruiting plus he has experience coaching OL. Coming from a small private school might also be a plus.
https://uiwcardinals.com/sports/footbal ... crill/2444
https://lionsports.net/sports/football/ ... evens/3276
SELA had the #1 offense by SP+ in FCS this year. He's got Louisiana ties and has yet to get a shot at FBS. He coaches QBs which is a plus and I think he could help with Louisiana recruiting. The guy's been an OC at several places, so this would not be a Hampton situation.
I'd also look at the OC from Incarnate Word, Cody Crill. Wazzo may have beat us to the punch because it's being reported they are hiring the UIW head coach as their OC. Crill has a long history of record setting offenses going back to his time at the Juco level. UIW went from 1-10 the season before he arrived to a FCS playoff berth in 2018. He's got Texas ties which is another place we need help recruiting plus he has experience coaching OL. Coming from a small private school might also be a plus.
https://uiwcardinals.com/sports/footbal ... crill/2444
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Re: New OC speculation
I'll throw one more name up there. Remember Samford putting up 52 on Florida in a losing effort? How about Russ Callaway, OC at Samford? They were fourth in SP+ offense this year. He's had four seasons of highly ranked offenses there and spent time as an analyst (defensive) under Saban. He's a former D2 QB at Valdosta St. so brings that experience with him to boot.
https://samfordsports.com/sports/footba ... laway/1142
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Re: New OC speculation
Brady, who was fired today, is probably a long shot. I’m wondering if Brian Kelly gives him a call. I was thinking an FCS OC may be the likely choice.
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“Probably a long shot” LOL. Why is he even being mentioned? He’s not coming to Tulane. We would pay him 50% of what he could make in the SEC
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“Definitely a long shot” would have been a better choice of words.purplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:56 pm“Probably a long shot” LOL. Why is he even being mentioned? He’s not coming to Tulane. We would pay him 50% of what he could make in the SEC
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Re: New OC speculation
I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
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The guy is a personality and has been a head coach for a long time. Hard to see him coming here to OCpurplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
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It's ging to be someone Fritz knows and I don't see CWF willing to go pass heavy, though I wish he would.
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He was a high school head coach and then coached at FCS Presbyterian for one year with no scholarship players. Why wouldn’t he come here for a lot more money, talented QB, in an awesome city and in a conference which is represented in the playoff?tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 amThe guy is a personality and has been a head coach for a long time. Hard to see him coming here to OCpurplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
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Re: New OC speculation
I am going to throw out 4 names...
Willy Korn - Coastal Carolina's OC (12th Offensive S/P)
Dave Johnson - FSU RB Coach (Former Tulane RB coach, Fmr St. Aug Head Coach)
Cody Crill - UIW OC (They score...ALOT!)
Rob Christophel - Nichols St. OC (In the 2021 spring season, the Colonel offense set program records in total offense per game with 521.6 yards per game and an astounding 48.7 scoring average. Nicholls scored 50 or more points three times in the seven-game season, including twice in Southland Conference play. )
My #1 Pick....
Ryan Carty - Sam Houston st. OC (He's from Sam Houston, of course we gotta get him!)
He helped lead the Bearkats to the 2020 FCS national championship and was not only named the FCS Coordinator of the Year by FootballScoop.com, but was also named to Dave Campbell's Texas Football's "Top 40 Coaches Under 40" list following the year.
The Bearkats average 42.6 points per game, he coaches the QB's and he also recruits Texas so there's the recruiting boost.
Former Tulane guys...who could coach
JP Losman - Sr Offensive Assistant Clemson
Shaun King - We can dream right...I keep asking him to come coach but he's happy in Tampa.
Willy Korn - Coastal Carolina's OC (12th Offensive S/P)
Dave Johnson - FSU RB Coach (Former Tulane RB coach, Fmr St. Aug Head Coach)
Cody Crill - UIW OC (They score...ALOT!)
Rob Christophel - Nichols St. OC (In the 2021 spring season, the Colonel offense set program records in total offense per game with 521.6 yards per game and an astounding 48.7 scoring average. Nicholls scored 50 or more points three times in the seven-game season, including twice in Southland Conference play. )
My #1 Pick....
Ryan Carty - Sam Houston st. OC (He's from Sam Houston, of course we gotta get him!)
He helped lead the Bearkats to the 2020 FCS national championship and was not only named the FCS Coordinator of the Year by FootballScoop.com, but was also named to Dave Campbell's Texas Football's "Top 40 Coaches Under 40" list following the year.
The Bearkats average 42.6 points per game, he coaches the QB's and he also recruits Texas so there's the recruiting boost.
Former Tulane guys...who could coach
JP Losman - Sr Offensive Assistant Clemson
Shaun King - We can dream right...I keep asking him to come coach but he's happy in Tampa.
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Re: New OC speculation
If people didn’t like the production and success levels under Long… don’t look up how Presbyterian did this year
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They had a top 5 FCS offense…1309th WAVE wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:24 am If people didn’t like the production and success levels under Long… don’t look up how Presbyterian did this year
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With our O-Line?
I'd amend that to say "I wish we had the O-Line to do so."
I think he's noting how they also had the same number of wins we did. Probably because when you don't punt you often give the opponent the ball with an extremely short field.purplehaz3 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:14 amThey had a top 5 FCS offense…1309th WAVE wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:24 am If people didn’t like the production and success levels under Long… don’t look up how Presbyterian did this year
Hey Char, we can only take that Nicholls guy if he brings you-know-who along as QB!
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Kelly definitely moved the conventional wisdom as teams from NFL on down now go for it much more frequently on fourth down. But that’s still a lot less than doing it almost exclusively like Kelly does.
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Making him OC doesn’t mean we have to strictly go for it on 4th down. That’s Fritz’s callPeteRasche wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:44 amWith our O-Line?
I'd amend that to say "I wish we had the O-Line to do so."
I think he's noting how they also had the same number of wins we did. Probably because when you don't punt you often give the opponent the ball with an extremely short field.purplehaz3 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:14 amThey had a top 5 FCS offense…1309th WAVE wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:24 am If people didn’t like the production and success levels under Long… don’t look up how Presbyterian did this year
Hey Char, we can only take that Nicholls guy if he brings you-know-who along as QB!
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This will also (artificially?) inflate your offensive statistics.PeteRasche wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:44 amWith our O-Line?
I'd amend that to say "I wish we had the O-Line to do so."
I think he's noting how they also had the same number of wins we did. Probably because when you don't punt you often give the opponent the ball with an extremely short field.purplehaz3 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:14 amThey had a top 5 FCS offense…1309th WAVE wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:24 am If people didn’t like the production and success levels under Long… don’t look up how Presbyterian did this year
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Re: New OC speculation
Fritz has lots of choices for OC. It’s my opinion he likes to control the time of possession, which helps the defense. Probably makes for close games.
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Re: New OC speculation
I started to include him in my first post above but thought he was an even longer shot than Brady.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 amThe guy is a personality and has been a head coach for a long time. Hard to see him coming here to OCpurplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
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Re: New OC speculation
Thinking outside the box is exactly what we need. An AAC OC job is significantly better than a non-scholarship, FCS HC job.waverider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:34 amI started to include him in my first post above but thought he was an even longer shot than Brady.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 amThe guy is a personality and has been a head coach for a long time. Hard to see him coming here to OCpurplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
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Re: New OC speculation
Monitoring names that Auburn media is throwing out for their new OC could provide some options:
1) Dameyune Craig: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dameyune_Craig
2) Mike Bobo, former Auburn OC.
3) Dell McGee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_McGee
1) Dameyune Craig: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dameyune_Craig
2) Mike Bobo, former Auburn OC.
3) Dell McGee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_McGee
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FCS non-scholarship???purplehaz3 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:48 amThinking outside the box is exactly what we need. An AAC OC job is significantly better than a non-scholarship, FCS HC job.waverider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:34 amI started to include him in my first post above but thought he was an even longer shot than Brady.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 amThe guy is a personality and has been a head coach for a long time. Hard to see him coming here to OCpurplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
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That’s right: http://collegesportsinfo.com/2017/11/20 ... eague/amp/Poseidon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:04 pmFCS non-scholarship???purplehaz3 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:48 amThinking outside the box is exactly what we need. An AAC OC job is significantly better than a non-scholarship, FCS HC job.waverider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:34 amI started to include him in my first post above but thought he was an even longer shot than Brady.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 amThe guy is a personality and has been a head coach for a long time. Hard to see him coming here to OCpurplehaz3 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm I agree with Fear the Wave on this flyer:
Kevin Kelley- Former Presbyterian HC. Look at the offensive numbers with no scholarships…
Also, pretty sure Kelley mentioned it in his farewell note.
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Re: New OC speculation
Callaway left Samford, did a year at LSU, and is now a New York Giants assistant. Still an interesting consideration—and that Giants staff is probably all getting fired.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:13 pm I'll throw one more name up there. Remember Samford putting up 52 on Florida in a losing effort? How about Russ Callaway, OC at Samford? They were fourth in SP+ offense this year. He's had four seasons of highly ranked offenses there and spent time as an analyst (defensive) under Saban. He's a former D2 QB at Valdosta St. so brings that experience with him to boot.
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Many here have pointed out good candidates that are at lower postions or lower paying schools. It simply proves how many options are acutally out there if we can find promising first look candidates with short searches. The same goes for the DC posisition that should be open.
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