MBB loses to CoC 81-77
MBB loses to CoC 81-77
Went on an 11-0 run* to cut it to 1 with 10 seconds left but a forced shot by Forbes was off the mark and CoC made free throws to seal it.
*yes. We trailed by 12 with a minute or so left.
*yes. We trailed by 12 with a minute or so left.
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Re: MBB loses to CoC 81-77
Our defense and rebounding are killing us. They had so many open looks and second chance opportunities. Hunter needs to look in the mirror, swallow his pride and play some man to man defense. It would be fine to mix in some zone but playing it exclusively just isn’t working.
Pope and Cross started together but Pope only played 8 minutes. I just don’t get it. He is our only true rebounder.
Pope and Cross started together but Pope only played 8 minutes. I just don’t get it. He is our only true rebounder.
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Re: MBB loses to CoC 81-77
You would think he’d notice that his system keeps not working.
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Offensively out rebounded 14-3. We don’t even crash the boards on the offensive end. The combo of Coleman and James produced 22 points. It wasn’t enough.
The season could not begin any worse than it has while Dannen is working on NCAA projects.
The season could not begin any worse than it has while Dannen is working on NCAA projects.
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It’s easy to prepare for us knowing we are going to play the same defense all game long. Just like in football you have to switch things up some or your opponent will figure it out.
Because we can’t rebound we get almost no easy baskets. 40 minutes and only 3 offensive rebounds. How is that possible?
Because we can’t rebound we get almost no easy baskets. 40 minutes and only 3 offensive rebounds. How is that possible?
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Wash. Rinse. REPEAT.
Four out of our last Six games that he refuses to call a timeout and draw up a crucial play on what could be our last possession to win or send to OT - my guess is he doesn’t want to be accountable if the play he draws up doesn’t work:
- Charleston, trailing 77-76, we have the ball with 13 seconds. Doesn’t even want to make sure we take the last shot - as we shoot with 6 seconds left.
- Valpo, trailing 66-64, we have the ball with 29 seconds (shot clock is off. Forbes turns it over with 19 seconds left.
- Toledo, trailing 68-67, we have the ball with 16 seconds off a defensive rebound. We don’t call a timeout and Jalen Cook misses a jumper with 2 seconds left.
- Southern, trailing 73-70, we have the ball with 8 seconds off of a defensive rebound. We don’t call a timeout and Sion James missed a 3-Point Field Goal.
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Re: MBB loses to CoC 81-77
I called it wrong on Gametracker. I don’t think we had a time out left. Some coaches like to play it out thinking their opponents won’t have time to set up. Personally, if I had a time out I would take it to make sure I got the look I wanted. It’s like we don’t practice what we are going to do in that scenario. At least call some kind of play to get somebody an open look. We keep settling for tough shots.
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This is ridiculous. An AAC tram should never lose to CofC. I mean we have big time transfers from Bama and LSU. What the hell is going on. CofC's best player is a freshman too.
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How bad does this year have to get for Hunter to be canned?
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He doesn't care.He's at Tulane so he knows the checks will keep coming without any questions.
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Starting to feel like we are cursed!
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And watching all the hires by TD and seeing almost every team suck big time, should make some of you nay sayers about Lisa Stockton shut the f--k up. one of our only coaches not hired by this numbnut and at least she has a winning record every year.
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That's all we aspire to huh? NIT every other year? No thanks, I want to see my teams in the tournament now and again. You're just cheering the best of a very low bar. It's possible for Dannens hires to be bad and for Stockton to have underperformed too.
Hopefully she gets it done this year and I am cheering for her to.
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It didn’t matter that Tulane shot 51% FG and 88% FT because second chance points were 19-2 in favor of Charleston. Wow!NJwave wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:52 pm Our defense and rebounding are killing us. They had so many open looks and second chance opportunities. Hunter needs to look in the mirror, swallow his pride and play some man to man defense. It would be fine to mix in some zone but playing it exclusively just isn’t working.
Pope and Cross started together but Pope only played 8 minutes. I just don’t get it. He is our only true rebounder.
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That is possible but it's also (very?) possible that whoever Dannen theoretically hires to replace would be a step backwards.tulaneoutlaw wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:25 amThat's all we aspire to huh? NIT every other year? No thanks, I want to see my teams in the tournament now and again. You're just cheering the best of a very low bar. It's possible for Dannens hires to be bad and for Stockton to have underperformed too.
Hopefully she gets it done this year and I am cheering for her to.
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If you're losing, you should shoot with time left as it gives you the chance at an offensive rebound or to extend the game further with fouling.QuarterbackU wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:06 pmWash. Rinse. REPEAT.
Four out of our last Six games that he refuses to call a timeout and draw up a crucial play on what could be our last possession to win or send to OT - my guess is he doesn’t want to be accountable if the play he draws up doesn’t work:
- Charleston, trailing 77-76, we have the ball with 13 seconds. Doesn’t even want to make sure we take the last shot - as we shoot with 6 seconds left.
Re: MBB loses to CoC 81-77
28-54 from the floor with 19 turnovers. Basically 73 chances to score from the field and we made 28 shots. Looking at this way we scored baskets on just over 38% of our potential chances. Going 15-17 vs their 11-16 from the line made up 4 points.Baywave1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:30 amIt didn’t matter that Tulane shot 51% FG and 88% FT because second chance points were 19-2 in favor of Charleston. Wow!NJwave wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:52 pm Our defense and rebounding are killing us. They had so many open looks and second chance opportunities. Hunter needs to look in the mirror, swallow his pride and play some man to man defense. It would be fine to mix in some zone but playing it exclusively just isn’t working.
Pope and Cross started together but Pope only played 8 minutes. I just don’t get it. He is our only true rebounder.
Conversely, Charleston was 29-66 with 16 turnovers. Thus, they scored on just over 35% of their 82 potential chances. They made more 3s than Tulane which made up for the discrepancy at the line.
While we shot a higher percentage and scored at a higher rate on our potential chances they had 9 more opportunities because of the massive edge they enjoyed in offensive rebounds.
We basically shot as well as we are capable of and connected at the line and still lost. Looking at it this way will have to shoot very well from the floor and win the turnover battle by a greater margin to offset the rebounding discrepancy we face in every game.
There is just margin for error for us to win playing the way we are. More proof that we need to play more man to man in an effort to limit the offensive rebounds.
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https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/ ... ule/Tulane
Yes, it's early and RPI is flawed and especially flawed early yadda yadda yadda, BUT:
307 RPI against a 268 SOS
This is not ok.
FWIW, two AAC teams have worse RPIs (but better records; we're worst in the conference at that) and one is very close. Still expecting last place. TD and Hunter can both go swim in Lake Ponchatrain.
Yes, it's early and RPI is flawed and especially flawed early yadda yadda yadda, BUT:
307 RPI against a 268 SOS
This is not ok.
FWIW, two AAC teams have worse RPIs (but better records; we're worst in the conference at that) and one is very close. Still expecting last place. TD and Hunter can both go swim in Lake Ponchatrain.
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Your record says Who you are.
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This should attract good coaches knowing they get 8 years to turn the program around and will likely get a raise or two in that time.
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Re: MBB loses to CoC 81-77
pretty bad since he's signed through 2027visualmagic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:31 pm How bad does this year have to get for Hunter to be canned?
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Hellz bells they could pay me half of his salary and still get the same resultsJohnny Mac wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:07 pmpretty bad since he's signed through 2027visualmagic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:31 pm How bad does this year have to get for Hunter to be canned?
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Are we only the team in the country that will not pay a buyout?Johnny Mac wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:07 pmpretty bad since he's signed through 2027visualmagic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:31 pm How bad does this year have to get for Hunter to be canned?
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You and I can split his salary and we may even improve the current results.krewe of ham and eggs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:39 pmHellz bells they could pay me half of his salary and still get the same resultsJohnny Mac wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:07 pmpretty bad since he's signed through 2027visualmagic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:31 pm How bad does this year have to get for Hunter to be canned?
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