Tulane vs Toledo

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Re: Tulane vs Toledo

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NJwave wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:22 am Besides not having a true center a zone is much tougher to rebound out of. When playing man to man you just have to find the guy you are guarding and box him out. In a zone, you need to find the player in your area and box him out. It can create mismatches at times. For example, yesterday there was a play where Coleman was under the basket trying to box out their center. It was no contest and the center grabbed the board and scored. Often players are confused as to their box out responsibility and they end up not boxing out at all. Couple that with what doesn’t appear to be much emphasis on rebounding and it is a disaster at times.

The match up zone can be problematic for our opponents but the trade off is we will lose the rebounding battle. Hunter will point to the large number of turnovers we create and the low field goal percentage Toledo shot to justify it. Personally I think we need to mix it up some.

Just one former average high school basketball player’s take.
And a correct one.

The other problem is with our offensive style the guards tend to want to get out and run so they are less likely to, even if they are supposed to, crash the boards. Often you get the guys on the perimeter standing out there or even floating towards halfcourt, hoping someone grabs a rebound and sees them out there. The same thing can happen in man but many times the guy you're covering goes to crash so you have to go too. it's easier to have it happen in zone because you're covering an area and if there's no one in your area, the tendency is to not proactively crash.
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Re: Tulane vs Toledo

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PeteRasche wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:05 am
NJwave wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:22 am Besides not having a true center a zone is much tougher to rebound out of. When playing man to man you just have to find the guy you are guarding and box him out. In a zone, you need to find the player in your area and box him out. It can create mismatches at times. For example, yesterday there was a play where Coleman was under the basket trying to box out their center. It was no contest and the center grabbed the board and scored. Often players are confused as to their box out responsibility and they end up not boxing out at all. Couple that with what doesn’t appear to be much emphasis on rebounding and it is a disaster at times.

The match up zone can be problematic for our opponents but the trade off is we will lose the rebounding battle. Hunter will point to the large number of turnovers we create and the low field goal percentage Toledo shot to justify it. Personally I think we need to mix it up some.

Just one former average high school basketball player’s take.
And a correct one.

The other problem is with our offensive style the guards tend to want to get out and run so they are less likely to, even if they are supposed to, crash the boards. Often you get the guys on the perimeter standing out there or even floating towards halfcourt, hoping someone grabs a rebound and sees them out there. The same thing can happen in man but many times the guy you're covering goes to crash so you have to go too. it's easier to have it happen in zone because you're covering an area and if there's no one in your area, the tendency is to not proactively crash.
Nobody is told to crash the boards. Hunter has said many times that the team is taught to get back on defense when a shot is taken. If more than one player is inside the arc after a shot he gets upset. He believes the trade off of playing defense is better than getting an offensive rebound while risking a fast break basket. Jokes on him, we give up fast break baskets while getting back on defense.
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